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So, Karen, Karen, I want to go back to you if you want to come off mute here real quick.

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One of the things you mentioned in our breakup group was this idea of going back to the people you had before.

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Can you give me a little 30 seconds about that approach?

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Yes, and I think that the last person who spoke, sorry, I forget his name,

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but he said, you know, if you can get in with one group, you never know where that person that hired you in the first place may move in their career.

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And that's certainly true.

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I think there's a big oil company here in Calgary called Synovus and a woman hired me there.

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And then she moved to a smaller design firm and hired us, you know, almost monthly.

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And then she left there, but the people that, you know, have still continued to hire us and, you know,

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she's influenced other people, people from that company have moved to other companies and have hired us.

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So that web of connectivity, if you do a good job, is amazing.